jon: reverend jesse jackson of rainbow/p.u.s.h. coalition. >> thank you, sir. jon: president obama won pennsylvania handily in 2008 but by his own campaign's admission this is different ballgame this time around, a much tighter race. former pennsylvania governor tom ridge is supporting governor romney. he campaigned with him last sunday in bucks county and with his running mate congressman paul ryan on saturday in harrisburg. governor tom ridge joins us now. pennsylvania, could it go romney. >> we're thinking red state finally. jon: really. >> it will obviously be a very close election but what we've been doing in the commonwealth of pennsylvania last couple months escape ad lot of people. that is voter outreach, voter contact by phone or mail. if you add what we did together in '04 and '08 we exceeded that number. frankly the message around energy independence, family sustaining jobs around coal and around natural gas is very appealing. that is one of the reasons governor romney is going into southwestern pennsylvania, pittsburgh. those folks understand the fu